GU-5 in London ?

[Kev The Brit]

Hi there, did I read that right on another post, that GU-5 is going to be held here in London ? Any details would be greatly appreciated as to venue and any other details about this - dates ? etc

Alll the best

Kevin

[Dave]

Hi there, did I read that right on another post, that GU-5 is going to be held here in London ? Any details would be greatly appreciated as to venue and any other details about this - dates ? etc

Alll the best

Kevin

Hi Kevin,

Still in the "Wouldn't it be great" realm, and likely to stay that way until the autumn at least, however some boardwalkers are saving already (so they say).

What we have discussed is:

In London, probably around April/May 2006.

A week long event is hoped for.

Attractions mentioned in passing are: London Dungeons, Stonehenge (day trip), Lisa wants all things ghostly and Marc wants castles, so Hampton Court Palace, Tower of London, and Windsor Castle seem likely.

And that is about it for now.

Hope to see you there.

Dave

[Maggers]

...Attractions mentioned in passing are: London Dungeons, Stonehenge (day trip), Lisa wants all things ghostly and Marc wants castles, so Hampton Court Palace, Tower of London, and Windsor Castle seem likely...



Hi guys,
It would be great to get to London, and I truly am saving for it. I'll put my two-cents in for shopping and theater in London! Last time I was there I vividly remember buying shoes and hugging a stone at Stonehenge. You could get up close and personal with Stonehenge back then; it was a long time ago. I believe they've roped off the monument, and it can be viewed from a short distance now. Is that correct?

Maggers

[Dave]

Hi guys,
It would be great to get to London, and I truly am saving for it. I'll put my two-cents in for shopping and theater in London! Last time I was there I vividly remember buying shoes and hugging a stone at Stonehenge. You could get up close and personal with Stonehenge back then; it was a long time ago. I believe they've roped off the monument, and it can be viewed from a short distance now. Is that correct?

Maggers

Yeah. I've never been, but the roping off thing didn't exactly inspire me to go...

Shopping can be a given (just don't expect me to traipse around after you, there are some benefits to being single :D ), and the theatre is an option.

Dave

[Maggers]

Yeah. I've never been, but the roping off thing didn't exactly inspire me to go...

Shopping can be a given (just don't expect me to traipse around after you, there are some benefits to being single :D ), and the theatre is an option.

Dave


Oh Dave, I would never expect you to traipse after me, especially when shopping. No woman should ever expect that of a man; that could be considered cruel and unusual punishment. :D

So you've never been to Stonehenge, eh? I've never been inside the Empire State Building. Funny how that can be...we don't bother with the touristy sights until we are entertaining tourists.

[Kev The Brit]

Dave, thanks for the info.I'm only about 25 miles or so from London, so it would be great to hook up with any of you guys when you're here, take in some sights in London and have a few drinks etc. If you need any help with hotel details / prices etc or anything that would be easier for someone on this side of the pond to help out with, just post up a message, and I'll see what I can do for you. The London Dungeons are great, always something new there, and the Jack The Ripper tour is pretty good too. Stonehenge, yes, they have roped it all off now, although I do recall going there when I was a kiddie, and you could wander round, touch the stones etc with no problems. If as you say FPW has put in an appearance at the others, then it would be nice to meet him too ! I'm sure even Steve in Scotland would be able to zip down on a plane too, as well as the other FPW fans in the UK who can get to meet up with you all.All the best, kevin

[Maggers]

If the GU5 in London does come to pass, it would be immensely cool to meet up with lots of FPW fans from the other side of the pond. Neato!

[Dave]

If the GU5 in London does come to pass, it would immensely cool to meet up with lots of FPW fans from the other side of the pond. Neato!

But is Superman as special when his friends visit him on Krypton? :D

Dave (who's beginning to feel like Clark Kent halfway through Superman 2)

[Dave]

If you need any help with hotel details / prices etc or anything that would be easier for someone on this side of the pond to help out with, just post up a message, and I'll see what I can do for you.

Thanks for the offer, Kev. I'll keep you in mind to help me out when the organising starts taking shape.

Dave

[Maggers]

But is Superman as special when his friends visit him on Krypton? :D

Dave (who's beginning to feel like Clark Kent halfway through Superman 2)

Oh David, Davie, Dave! How could you be anything but super-special to those of us who already know you and love you. Add to that the deep friendships you have with the core-GU'ers, and you become well nigh irreplaceable.

You were the first intrepid overseas adventurer who saw fit to wing his way to FPW years ago. That just can't be topped! :D

[Scott Hajek]

But is Superman as special when his friends visit him on Krypton? :D

Dave (who's beginning to feel like Clark Kent halfway through Superman 2)
The difference is that the gravity and environment would most likely kill off all of Superman's friends. Unless there's something funny in the water over there, most of the GUers will survive the trip and make sure you feel special.

[Kev The Brit]

Thanks for the offer, Kev. I'll keep you in mind to help me out when the organising starts taking shape.

Dave

Dave, no problems mate ! I'm eager to meet other FPW fans from the other side of the pond as well as those here in the UK ! My great email mate Steve Black is one that I am looking forward to meeting at some stage.............although now, and he knows why, the drinks will probably be on me ! Yup, if you need any help at all, let me know. I work at Gatwick Airport, so have access to loads of info there, and could probably help any GU'ers find accomodation thats NOT going to break the bank, as well as travel etc. I am on the main line to London as I live in Horley, so train travel ain't expensive, and compared with some of the hotels in London which I KNOW are pretty extortionate, I could probably help source some cheaper options if people want. all the best, Kevin

[Keith the Elder]

Forgive me if this is irrational or offensive ( I have the flu and am running fever):

Is there a difference in referring to one as English or British, just wondering in my delerium.

Also, what do you think of this for the RJ Cast:
Jack: Shatner
Abe: Shatner
Kusum: Shatner
Julio: Shatner
That guy jack recovers Kolabati's necklace from: Shatner

If you saw the Shatner version of "Seven" you know this could work (and I bet he comes pretty cheap)

K the E

[Mike]

undefinedundefinedundefinedForgive me if this is irrational or offensive ( I have the flu and am running fever):

Is there a difference in referring to one as English or British, just wondering in my delerium.

Also, what do you think of this for the RJ Cast:
Jack: Shatner
Abe: Shatner
Kusum: Shatner
Julio: Shatner
That guy jack recovers Kolabati's necklace from: Shatner

If you saw the Shatner version of "Seven" you know this could work (and I bet he comes pretty cheap)

K the E

Couldn't be any worse than having Ashton Kutcher :D !

[Biggles]

Is there a difference in referring to one as English or British, just wondering in my delerium.



The British Isles at various times have been home to Celts, Romans, Britons, Picts, Scots, Vikings (Norsemen), Angles, Saxons, Canutes and Normans, and probably other less common ethnic groups. English refers to Angles, and British to Britons, but in effect the groups have intermarried and built a nation, so the distinction seems academic. Most of the Britons either moved to Britanny (in France), or Cornwall and Wales on the West coast after the Angles and Saxons invaded. At least, this is what I recall from my college English history class. I'm sure the Brits on this board have better information.

[Dave]

The British Isles at various times have been home to Celts, Romans, Britons, Picts, Scots, Vikings (Norsemen), Angles, Saxons, Canutes and Normans, and probably other less common ethnic groups. English refers to Angles, and British to Britons, but in effect the groups have intermarried and built a nation, so the distinction seems academic. Most of the Britons either moved to Britanny (in France), or Cornwall and Wales on the West coast after the Angles and Saxons invaded. At least, this is what I recall from my college English history class. I'm sure the Brits on this board have better information.

Great Britain is made up of England, Scotland and Wales.

England is south of Scotland and east of Wales.

Scotland is north of England.

Wales is the funny pigs head to the west of England.

They are all one connected land mass, and all persons within it's borders are British.

So, I am English (being from England), and British.

Steve Black, from Scotland, is Scottish, and British.

Tom Jones, from Wales, is Welsh, and British.

How you define yourself is a matter of mood and context. I would probably differentiate myself with Steve Black by saying I'm English and he's Scottish, but together we're British.

Now, the United Kingdom is all of the above, and Northern Ireland.

Someone from Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, hence, not British. They are Irish, but still part of the United Kingdom.

Confused? You will be.

In the world stage we are represented as the United Kingdom (as you might see at the UN for instance), but in sports it is divided up, with some sports like Athletics being represented as Great Britain, and other sports like soccer, rugby and cricket as England, Scotland, Wales. In soccer, Northern Ireland and Ireland are two entities, yet in rugby they are considered one nation.

This is why you will never see England, Scotland, or Wales challenging for a gold medal in soccer at the Olympics, because we are Great Britain at the Olympics and don't have a "British" soccer team (and we're crap, but this is beside the point).

Eire (or mainland Ireland) is not part of Britain or the United Kingdom in any way, shape or form.

Now, to Biggles point about who is classed as a Briton. He has the basics about where we all dispersed to correct, but in truth we don't distinguish our heritage as much as Americans do. I've heard Americans say they're Irish-Americans, or Italian-Americans, or African-Americans. Give you another five hundred years of history and I'm sure that will disappear as it has here. If you're born in Britain, you're British. Full stop.

And here endeth the lesson. Hope it helps.

Dave

[Keith the Elder]

Thanks guys. That was very informative.

Keith the elder

[Maggers]

Dave, that was a great and very clear explanation of how things are across the pond. I learned some new things, thanks!

[Susan]

Great Britain is made up of England, Scotland and Wales.

England is south of Scotland and east of Wales.

Scotland is north of England.

Wales is the funny pigs head to the west of England.

They are all one connected land mass, and all persons within it's borders are British.

So, I am English (being from England), and British.

Steve Black, from Scotland, is Scottish, and British.

Tom Jones, from Wales, is Welsh, and British.

How you define yourself is a matter of mood and context. I would probably differentiate myself with Steve Black by saying I'm English and he's Scottish, but together we're British.

Now, the United Kingdom is all of the above, and Northern Ireland.

Someone from Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, hence, not British. They are Irish, but still part of the United Kingdom.

Confused? You will be.

In the world stage we are represented as the United Kingdom (as you might see at the UN for instance), but in sports it is divided up, with some sports like Athletics being represented as Great Britain, and other sports like soccer, rugby and cricket as England, Scotland, Wales. In soccer, Northern Ireland and Ireland are two entities, yet in rugby they are considered one nation.

This is why you will never see England, Scotland, or Wales challenging for a gold medal in soccer at the Olympics, because we are Great Britain at the Olympics and don't have a "British" soccer team (and we're crap, but this is beside the point).

Eire (or mainland Ireland) is not part of Britain or the United Kingdom in any way, shape or form.

Now, to Biggles point about who is classed as a Briton. He has the basics about where we all dispersed to correct, but in truth we don't distinguish our heritage as much as Americans do. I've heard Americans say they're Irish-Americans, or Italian-Americans, or African-Americans. Give you another five hundred years of history and I'm sure that will disappear as it has here. If you're born in Britain, you're British. Full stop.

And here endeth the lesson. Hope it helps.

Dave
Thank you Professor Dayyyyyyyyyyve! That was great.

I think "Americans" get cornfused too. The Americas are made up of South, Central and North America (US and Canada). But only citizens of the US (as far as I can tell) call themselves Americans.

And don't get me started on the whole Hispanic/Latin thing.

Susanita

[Scott Miller]

And don't get me started on the whole Hispanic/Latin thing.

Susanita

Too late. Inquiring minds want to know.

[Susan]

Too late. Inquiring minds want to know.
Uh-oh...

I Googled this and it turns out it's even more cornfusing than I remember. Lots of disagreement. I grew up believing Latin meant you were Latin American which is anyone from South and Central America and Spanish-speaking islands like Cuba. So being Latin was more of a geographical thing. I understood the term Hispanic to mean people from South and Central America that spoke Spanish, which basically includes everyone except Brazil.

In my experience, Mexicans prefer to be called Hispanic and everyone else prefers Latino. Get it? Me neither.

According to the Job Latino website:

HISPANIC derives from the mostly white Iberian Peninsula that includes Spain and Portugal (Spain and Portugal are located in Europe).

LATINO derives from the brown indigenous people of the Americas (Mexico, Central America, and South America).
One thing is not debatable: Hispanic is not a race, it is an ethnic group. Hispanics/Latinos can be black, white and everywhere in between.

So the debate continues without resolution. Sorry!

Susanita

[Scott Miller]

In my experience, Mexicans prefer to be called Hispanic and everyone else prefers Latino. Get it? Me neither.

According to the Job Latino website:

HISPANIC derives from the mostly white Iberian Peninsula that includes Spain and Portugal (Spain and Portugal are located in Europe).

LATINO derives from the brown indigenous people of the Americas (Mexico, Central America, and South America).
One thing is not debatable: Hispanic is not a race, it is an ethnic group. Hispanics/Latinos can be black, white and everywhere in between.

So the debate continues without resolution. Sorry!

Susanita

No apology necessary, your info is good. I do my best to be sensitive to all ethnicities whenever they come up in conversation, but I will usually start out with Hispanic for anyone from those parts of the world. I hope they correct me if they are offended.

I always wonder if Hispanics take offense when I use my severely limited Spanish when talking with them. I figure that is the best way to learn.

[fpw]

"It’s not too early to plan for next year’s Left Coast of Crime, which will take place in historic Bristol, England (March 16-19, 2006). Adrian Muller, who has been of immense help to ITW, is one of the organizers. The plan is to have a separate string of thriller panels at that conference, also. It’s possible that these will be branded as ITW events. The website is

http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=bk6qu4aab.0.diutu4aab.csqwq6aab.94&p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leftcoastcrime2006.com%2F.

One of our boardmembers, Lee Child, is a Guest of Honor."

Just tossing it out. I don't know if that gives anyone ideas.

[AsMoral]

I know it is still a far way off, but I just found out that in March of next year I will get around a 3,000 bonus from Cingular. That very well may make it all the more possible for me to go. That and I will have plenty of vacation time by then as well. Like 2 months worth. So it is a strong possibility that even without scrimping and saving I could easily make it.

Woohoo, the Gods have smiled on me.

Tony

[Biggles]

Great Britain is made up of England, Scotland and Wales.

England is south of Scotland and east of Wales.

Scotland is north of England.

Wales is the funny pigs head to the west of England.

They are all one connected land mass, and all persons within it's borders are British.

So, I am English (being from England), and British.

Steve Black, from Scotland, is Scottish, and British.

Tom Jones, from Wales, is Welsh, and British.

How you define yourself is a matter of mood and context. I would probably differentiate myself with Steve Black by saying I'm English and he's Scottish, but together we're British.

Now, the United Kingdom is all of the above, and Northern Ireland.

Someone from Northern Ireland is not part of Great Britain, hence, not British. They are Irish, but still part of the United Kingdom.

Confused? You will be.

In the world stage we are represented as the United Kingdom (as you might see at the UN for instance), but in sports it is divided up, with some sports like Athletics being represented as Great Britain, and other sports like soccer, rugby and cricket as England, Scotland, Wales. In soccer, Northern Ireland and Ireland are two entities, yet in rugby they are considered one nation.

This is why you will never see England, Scotland, or Wales challenging for a gold medal in soccer at the Olympics, because we are Great Britain at the Olympics and don't have a "British" soccer team (and we're crap, but this is beside the point).

Eire (or mainland Ireland) is not part of Britain or the United Kingdom in any way, shape or form.

Now, to Biggles point about who is classed as a Briton. He has the basics about where we all dispersed to correct, but in truth we don't distinguish our heritage as much as Americans do. I've heard Americans say they're Irish-Americans, or Italian-Americans, or African-Americans. Give you another five hundred years of history and I'm sure that will disappear as it has here. If you're born in Britain, you're British. Full stop.

And here endeth the lesson. Hope it helps.

Dave

Yeah. What he said! :D Actually, I wonder how long it took after the Norman Conquest in 1066 for the whole Norman v. Saxon distinction to disappear. I doubt that Britons and Anglo-Saxons have differentiated themselves for many centuries. Besides, The UK has had more serious divisions: Catholic v. Protestant (dating back to Henry VIII); Royalist v. Parliamentarian; Yorkists v. Lancastrians.

Speaking of Irish-Americans, I thought the most poignant and tragic scene in "God and Generals" was where the Union Irish Brigade went against the Confederate Irish Brigade. Talk about brother v. brother.

[Paul R]

When I read that GU-5 could well be in Sunny England, I thought to myself, "Hey, I'll try and make that." Then I read post after post from people who are already fully prepared to travel from across The Pond to take part. I can't believe that people are so ready and willing to come far and wide for such an event. Not that the event wouldn't deserve their presence, but more that people are fully prepared to put themselves out. Just goes to show what a nice bunch of people there are on this site.
And there was little me wondering whether or not I'd be able to travel to London from the North East of England.
Well, my faith in human nature is now restored and you can count me in!
Just one thing though... don't read too much into the phrase 'Sunny England' - we do something called sarcasm over here.

[jimbow8]

Just goes to show what a nice bunch of people there are on this site.
Hah! You just say that because you haven't actually met any of us yet! You wait!

Alas, I jest. :D

[Keith the Elder]

we do something called sarcasm over here.

Among the most sarcastic was Doug Pirannha..he knew all the tricks...puns... pathos...metaphor... parody and hyperbole He was vicious

[Peter]

Now, I must have built up a reputation by now for coming in late on things but I am very lax about lurking on the board! Still, all you lot coming here? Oh, transports of delight etc.! Some of you were mentioning Stonehenge, well it's true that you can't walk among the stones as you could when I were but a lad BUT may I suggest Avesbury. It is the largest stone circle in Britain (maybe the world) and has a whole village within it. If you like antiquities it is also in a sort of metropolis of them. Look up Silbury Hill, West Kennet long barrow, Uffington White Horse and Waylands Smithy's Cave (anyone read Fairytale by Raymond Feist?) and you will see what I mean. Anyway, if it all comes off count me in. Oh, do you any of you guys drink? I mean, I hardly ever do but I could, perhaps, be persuaded to indulge with you, just the once....

Last thing, do come look at Devon, dont just restrict yourselves to London!

[jimbow8]

Now, I must have built up a reputation by now for coming in late on things but I am very lax about lurking on the board! Still, all you lot coming here? Oh, transports of delight etc.! Some of you were mentioning Stonehenge, well it's true that you can't walk among the stones as you could when I were but a lad BUT may I suggest Avesbury. It is the largest stone circle in Britain (maybe the world) and has a whole village within it. If you like antiquities it is also in a sort of metropolis of them. Look up Silbury Hill, West Kennet long barrow, Uffington White Horse and Waylands Smithy's Cave (anyone read Fairytale by Raymond Feist?) and you will see what I mean. Anyway, if it all comes off count me in. Oh, do you any of you guys drink? I mean, I hardly ever do but I could, perhaps, be persuaded to indulge with you, just the once....

Last thing, do come look at Devon, dont just restrict yourselves to London!
No, none of us drink, especially Paul and Biggles. Tony just spills drinks - usually other peoples'. :p

[Paul R]

Oh, do you any of you guys drink?
Yes please.

[Biggles]

No, none of us drink, especially Paul and Biggles. Tony just spills drinks - usually other peoples'. :p

I don't drink any more.




I don't drink any less either. :D

[Peter]

Right, a few drinks it will be then! Last time we had any Americans in my local the lady (from Texas) ended the evening on her hands and knees barking back at Barnie the pub dog. First time I ever saw that dog back off from anything....

[Biggles]

Right, a few drinks it will be then! Last time we had any Americans in my local the lady (from Texas) ended the evening on her hands and knees barking back at Barnie the pub dog. First time I ever saw that dog back off from anything....

There are Soooooo many things I could say. :D But this is, after all, a family board.

[Peter]

Well, we kind of thought that too Biggles. If it is any conclusion to the story she was, er, taken unwell in the carpark later. Before that she offered to take me outside for somerhing or other, I forget what exactly. You seem to breed em game in Texas!

If you do all come over I hope you behave better, mind you it's not a condition...

[Biggles]

Well, we kind of thought that too Biggles. If it is any conclusion to the story she was, er, taken unwell in the carpark later. Before that she offered to take me outside for somerhing or other, I forget what exactly. You seem to breed em game in Texas!

If you do all come over I hope you behave better, mind you it's not a condition...

Texas is a big state. While I'm not a Texan and can't presume to speak for them, I think most would agree that lady's behavior was unacceptable.

[Kev The Brit]

Yup, this Brit certainly likes a drink or nine as well - and there are some really good pubs in London worth checking out - The Bag Of Nails, The Tottenham, The Moon Under Water, The Sussex.......just to name a few. Most certainly worth checking out<P>Laters<P>Kevin

[Peter]

Oh, I never said her behaviour was unnaceptable. In fact it quite made our week. Mind you, things are rather slow round here!

[Weatherford]

I, being the country-type, would MUCH rather be in Devon or Somerset or Newcastle (Hadrian's Wall) or the Lake District or Hay-0n-Wye (where the whole town is a bookstore!!! on the English Welsh border)... etc....

London is another city - yes a wonderful city (as far as cities go -and there is LOTS of great classical music to be heard just about every day at all hours!) but, it's still a city...

Now, if you all wanted to meet in GALWAY.... I even know a lovely little castle you could rent - ok, so it only has four or five bedrooms ;) and not fancy turrets, etc (it is really just the KEEP ;) ) .... just a thought.... ;)

[Maggers]

I, being the country-type, would MUCH rather be in Devon or Somerset or Newcastle (Hadrian's Wall) or the Lake District or Hay-0n-Wye (where the whole town is a bookstore!!! on the English Welsh border)... etc....

London is another city - yes a wonderful city (as far as cities go -and there is LOTS of great classical music to be heard just about every day at all hours!) but, it's still a city...

Now, if you all wanted to meet in GALWAY.... I even know a lovely little castle you could rent - ok, so it only has four or five bedrooms ;) and not fancy turrets, etc (it is really just the KEEP ;) ) .... just a thought.... ;)


Wow, that does sound wonderful! But I think the decision has been made that it's London or bust. Oh, but Ireland is just a jump across a tiny pond from England.

My mother's people are from County Roscommon. When I Googled it, all I could find of interest was the Famine Museum!

[Biggles]

I, being the country-type, would MUCH rather be in Devon or Somerset or Newcastle (Hadrian's Wall) or the Lake District or Hay-0n-Wye (where the whole town is a bookstore!!! on the English Welsh border)... etc....


Hadrian's Wall!!! Now THAT would be a sight! Do you have any pictures to share?

Addendum: By the way, I just realized that could be an unintentional pun: "Pict"-ures. The Picts were great warriors. In fact it was said that if you're
one Pict, you're worth a thousand swords!

[Weatherford]

Unfortunately, any pictures I had of Hadrian's Wall (which is incredible - talk about the feeling/atmosphere of ancient!) were 1) taken on my honeymoon which was a long time ago - longer ago than my divorce.... ;) 2) so shrouded in fog, you couldn't see much anyway!!

Strange, mystical place! Especially if you go to places along the wall that aren't the tourist traps.... Just where there are sheep and cattle...

[fpw]

Just noticed: The Left Coast of Crime convention is being held in Bristol, UK, March 16-19, 2006.

Hmmmmm.

[Dave]

Just noticed: The Left Coast of Crime convention is being held in Bristol, UK, March 16-19, 2006.

Hmmmmm.

Paul, you already mentioned this on page 3 of this thread. Everyone ignored you then, as they have now. Only kidding. :)

Bristol is a lovely city (but not that big), and the surrounding area is one of the nicest parts of the UK. I'll have to leave it up to the travellers as to whether they want to travel across the pond and spend three days at a convention.

I did it for Chicago, and enjoyed the weekend, but was glad I hung around for a week afterwards to see Chicago itself.

As to the timing, from a personal pov, taking time off in March is going to prove very difficult (my vacation year begins again in April). I'm struggling with vacation days this year already and would have to sacrifice some plans to fit it in. Now if they move the entire convention to April, that would suit me much better :)

Dave

PS Weather wise, March is still our winter and the South West will be chilly.

[fpw]

Paul, you already mentioned this on page 3 of this thread.

My mind is a steel sieve.

I've no preference as to timing. You folks choose a date (or a number of dates) and I'll tell you if I can make it.

[Dave]

My mind is a steel sieve.

Good thing, the plastic ones are just rubbish.

You folks choose a date (or a number of dates) and I'll tell you if I can make it.

See how the gauntlet tumbles...

I agree that a date (or at least some options for) should be decided, and soon. Lodgings will need booking, and the earlier you look, the more options you'll have.

My choice would be the first week in May (April 29th to May 6/7th); a Public Holiday in the UK and US(?), schools still in session in the UK, and the weather will be...bearable (it could be quite nice, Spring will certainly be in the air).

Thoughts? Alternative preferred dates? Still want London?

Dave

[Maggers]

...I agree that a date (or at least some options for) should be decided, and soon. Lodgings will need booking, and the earlier you look, the more options you'll have.

My choice would be the first week in May (April 29th to May 6/7th); a Public Holiday in the UK and US(?), schools still in session in the UK, and the weather will be...bearable (it could be quite nice, Spring will certainly be in the air).

Thoughts? Alternative preferred dates? Still want London?

Dave

Pardon my confusion...are we speaking of a GU 5 in London without FPW, since his confererence takes place earlier in the year?

[Dave]

Pardon my confusion...are we speaking of a GU 5 in London without FPW, since his confererence takes place earlier in the year?

Yes, we're talking about GU5.

The GUs have always been about the fans getting together. We would love Paul to make it, and I'm sure everyone will agree that we could move things around to guarantee the best chance of that happening, but the first priority is about when and where the GUers want to meet up next year.

From initial discussions in Orlando it was discussed about London, and about late April/May/early June time (the weather being a factor - Chicago was cold and our memories are long).

That isn't to say this is set in stone, so the option of going to Bristol in March is still there. But we need to start getting something concrete going, and as Paul said, if he can make the proposed date (or one of several proposed dates) then everything will be super dooper.

For that to happen we need discussion. So start talking people...

Dave

PS to clarify, Bristol is not near London. A one off move from Bristol to London for the remainder of the stay (or the other way around) would require a good portion of a morning or afternoon, it isn't commutable (although I've heard of such strange things).

[fpw]

I have no burning desire to go to Bristol. Just tossing it up as a possibility. Much prefer London.

Settle on some dates you all can make, and then I'll tell you which of those I can make, and we'll pick one and meet in London.

[Marc]

I for one would much rather stay away from a convention this time around. If I'm flying to London I want to explore the city and country, not be in a hotel for three days.

But that's just me.

[Maggers]

I for one would much rather stay away from a convention this time around. If I'm flying to London I want to explore the city and country, not be in a hotel for three days.

But that's just me.


I'm with you on this one, Marc. London needs to be explored and discovered.

[Richard Kendrick]

Hmmm. It's starting to look like I might just be able to make it to one of these GUs finally. London of all places.

RIK

[Peter]

I would be delighted to come to London for a couple of days, how long do you think you would all be here for?

[Marc]

I would be delighted to come to London for a couple of days, how long do you think you would all be here for?

Since I haven't been to London since I was 16 I plan on spending a full week there. That's the plan anyway.

[Keith the Elder]

We were planning a week to 10 days, with side trips to Portmeirion, Wales (where The Prisoner was filmed) and possibly to Paris since we have never left CONUS (continental U.S for those of you who have never worked in government or the military), save for a week in Puerto Rico to attend a wedding.

Really looking forward to this.

[fpw]

We were planning a week to 10 days, with side trips to Portmeirion, Wales (where The Prisoner was filmed)

So were the exteriors of The Keep.

[Keith the Elder]

So were the exteriors of The Keep.

I did not know that!!!

Guess I'll have to get the tape out this weekend.

[fpw]

I did not know that!!!

Guess I'll have to get the tape out this weekend.

Stephane Piter's obsessive site might help you find the location of the quarry they used.

http://www.the-keep.ath.cx/

[Keith the Elder]

Stephane Piter's obsessive site might help you find the location of the quarry they used.

http://www.the-keep.ath.cx/

I've been visiting his site regularly since you first posted it, if only to see if he will ever let his personal DVD go. Must..........have...........soundtrack.....