Rakoshi?

[Scott Hajek]

This is a question I've been meaning to ask for a while.

If The Tomb should've been called Rakoshi why can't it be retitled so for the 20th Anniversary Borderlands Press edition?

It will most likely get retitled as Repairman Jack for the movie tie-in.

[jimbow8]

Or possibly subtitled Repairman Jack

[Lisa]

If The Tomb should've been called Rakoshi why can't it be retitled so for the 20th Anniversary Borderlands Press edition?


Because "The Tomb" goes better with "The Keep" and "The Touch." :D

Lisa

[Scott Hajek]

Or possibly subtitled Repairman Jack
If it is like other books/movies then the cover will have the new title only and inside it will state "previously published as ...."

"Die Hard" the movie was based on a book titled Nothing Lasts Forever and yet the book had been retitled. Also look at Mel Gibson's newest movie... the New Testament is being republished with an image of the movie on the cover.

Since Paul is quoted as saying it should've been titled Rakoshi, I thought he could correct it now.

[Scott Hajek]

Because "The Tomb" goes better with "The Keep" and "The Touch." :D

Lisa
You sound just like a publisher.;)

[jimbow8]

"Die Hard" the movie was based on a book titled Nothing Lasts Forever
I didn't know that! I have watched that movie literally HUNDREDS of times and not seen any reference to that book. Who is the author?

DIE HARD - greatest action movie ever, best villain (as far as intelligence and planning) ever!!

[Marc]

If The Tomb should've been called Rakoshi why can't it be retitled so for the 20th Anniversary Borderlands Press edition?

I think Paul asked our opinion on this at GU-3 but I can't remember due to all the alcohol and Rob Walker conversations. I'm all for a change in name and, to continue with the "The", go with Paul's second title: The Rakoshi. :)

[Scott Hajek]

I didn't know that! I have watched that movie literally HUNDREDS of times and not seen any reference to that book. Who is the author?

DIE HARD - greatest action movie ever, best villain (as far as intelligence and planning) ever!!
The book was titled Nothing Lasts Forever by Roderick Thorp. "Die Hard 2" was based on the book 58 Minutes by Walter Wager who also wrote Telefon.

Here is a trivia question that stumped the entire campus of Iowa State University about 11 years ago: "Die Hard" was based on a book that was actually a sequel to another. The 'prequel' was also made into a movie. Name the other actor that played the same literary character as Bruce Willis in "Die Hard."

You have a hint above and the ability to search for it on the web, but see if you can answer it without help. Send me a private message if you know the answer... I'll post the answer if you want.

[jimbow8]

I don't know the answer to that. I can only guess it is one of the many inferior "Die Hard on a......." (train, airplane, ship, etc) knock-offs like Passenger 57 or those crappy Steven Seagal movies.

I do know that Die Hard (3): With a Vengeance was originally written as a Lethal Weapon movie.

[Biggles]

I think Paul asked our opinion on this at GU-3 but I can't remember due to all the alcohol and Rob Walker conversations. I'm all for a change in name and, to continue with the "The", go with Paul's second title: The Rakoshi. :)

I concur. "The Rakoshi" would be perfect.

[fpw]

I concur. "The Rakoshi" would be perfect.

Talk about synchronicity, I just had an email exchange with Elizabeth Monteleone and it's all set: the Borderlands edition will be titled RAKOSHI (no "The"). This will be the first time the book has appeared under the author's title.

FPW

[jimbow8]

That is AWESOME!! I can't wait to pick up a copy. Is it going so say on there somewhere formerly titled The Tomb?

[fpw]

Is it going so say on there somewhere formerly titled The Tomb?

No. We figure anyone buying the Borderlands edition will know, especialy since their website will have a brief quote from me informing people. Also, I'll be doing an author's note / introduction for that edition explaining how the title wound up being changed.

FPW

[jimbow8]

Question about Borderlands Edition. (http://www.ethink.net/fpw/forum/showthread.php?p=137#post137)

[Biggles]

Talk about synchronicity, I just had an email exchange with Elizabeth Monteleone and it's all set: the Borderlands edition will be titled RAKOSHI (no "The"). This will be the first time the book has appeared under the author's title.

FPW


Pan-o-ramic!!! :)

[diomedes]

I was e-mailed by Borderlands Press that there is (due to correcting a flaw in the cover) a delay in shipping out the limited edition The Touch. The new release date is Mar. 15. Just that I would spread the word.

[Susan]

Talk about synchronicity, I just had an email exchange with Elizabeth Monteleone and it's all set: the Borderlands edition will be titled RAKOSHI (no "The"). This will be the first time the book has appeared under the author's title.

FPW
Neato!

Susan

[Dave]

Talk about synchronicity, I just had an email exchange with Elizabeth Monteleone and it's all set: the Borderlands edition will be titled RAKOSHI (no "The"). This will be the first time the book has appeared under the author's title.

FPW

This finally swayed me into getting the series. Now all I can do is wait...

Dave

[Biggles]

I also have belatedly decided to subscribe to the Borderlands series, even as I am trying to acquire hard cover first editions of the originals. I'm wondering whether I can still get matching numbers of all 6 now that the first two are already out. Borderlands website is silent on this question. Also, is it better to get the books through the Overlook Connection since they throw in "The Last Rakosh"? Any answers out there?

[Dave]

I'm wondering whether I can still get matching numbers of all 6 now that the first two are already out?

They had no problem offering me the same number for all six (137, 37 was taken). And that was yesterday.

Also, is it better to get the books through the Overlook Connection since they throw in "The Last Rakosh"? Any answers out there?

I couldn't say, I wasn't aware of this.

Dave

[Lisa]

Isn't the text of The Last Rakosh included in one of the RJ books?

Lisa

[Dave]

Isn't the text of The Last Rakosh included in one of the RJ books?

Yeah, I think it was incorporated into All The Rage. But you know these completists (sp?).

Dave

[Scott Hajek]

Yeah, I think it was incorporated into All The Rage. But you know these completists (sp?).

Dave
Hey! Who are you calling a completist? We are merely overly obsessed whackos with little to say of a life, too much money (or debt) and an overwhelming desire to have a copy of every appearance of every story and or book. Wait, I like "completist" better. Yes. Completist will do fine.

And, yes, "The Last Rakosh" was incorporated into All The Rage. Although, I got a copy of "The Last Rakosh" before I knew Jack was coming back.

[Biggles]

Hey! Who are you calling a completist? We are merely overly obsessed whackos with little to say of a life, too much money (or debt) and an overwhelming desire to have a copy of every appearance of every story and or book. Wait, I like "completist" better. Yes. Completist will do fine.

And, yes, "The Last Rakosh" was incorporated into All The Rage. Although, I got a copy of "The Last Rakosh" before I knew Jack was coming back.

Ain't we jest a mite tetchy there, Scott?

[ALowerDeep]

I concur. "The Rakoshi" would be perfect.

I vote for Rakoshi no "The" i don't know i think it sounds darker. Plus we already have the The Touch and The Keep too many "The's". Imagine The Reprisal ,The Reborn and The Nightworld. Sounds like a collection of Bentley Little books.

ALD

[Biggles]

I vote for Rakoshi no "The" i don't know i think it sounds darker. Plus we already have the The Touch and The Keep too many "The's". Imagine The Reprisal ,The Reborn and The Nightworld. Sounds like a collection of Bentley Little books.

ALD

Besides, isn't "the" the French word for tea? If the title is "The Rakoshi" we would have to change the title in the French translation, or it would be really gross.

[jpwynn]

Actually, I just talked to Borderlands this morning and it IS being retitled as Rakoshi.

[AsMoral]

The book was titled Nothing Lasts Forever by Roderick Thorp. "Die Hard 2" was based on the book 58 Minutes by Walter Wager who also wrote Telefon.

Here is a trivia question that stumped the entire campus of Iowa State University about 11 years ago: "Die Hard" was based on a book that was actually a sequel to another. The 'prequel' was also made into a movie. Name the other actor that played the same literary character as Bruce Willis in "Die Hard."

You have a hint above and the ability to search for it on the web, but see if you can answer it without help. Send me a private message if you know the answer... I'll post the answer if you want.


Was that The Detective starring Frank Sinatra as Detective Joe Leland who was later changed to detective John McLane for the Die hard films. I saw The Detective a few years back. About a detective (of course) investigating the murder of a gay guy. Not a big thriller fror the Bruce Willis character from the Die Hard films.

Incidentally, Tears of the Sun, Willis' war drama, was the working title for the 4th Die Hard movie, and he let the studio use it because they couldn't come up with a title for their war film. How nice of Bruce. So instead of Die Hard: Tears of the Sun...come 2005 we will have Die Hard: Die hardest. Let's hope that changes by then.

[Keith the Elder]

Talk about synchronicity, I just had an email exchange with Elizabeth Monteleone and it's all set: the Borderlands edition will be titled RAKOSHI (no "The"). This will be the first time the book has appeared under the author's title.

FPW

Filamentous

keith the elder

[Biggles]

Filamentous

keith the elder

Indeed! Both filamentous and pan-o-ramic.

[Scott Hajek]

Was that The Detective starring Frank Sinatra as Detective Joe Leland who was later changed to detective John McLane for the Die hard films
Congratulations. Not many people have ever answered the question correctly. Not only did they change the name, but in Die Hard - the book version - they also had the main character in his 60's, it was his daughter he was visiting, and the ending was different, too. (No spoilers). The movie was very, very close to the book in the pacing, the scenes and the action. Pretty true to the book even though they played with it a bit. Unlike the upcoming "I, Robot." That looks like Aliens meets A.I.

[jpwynn]

Hey! Who are you calling a completist? We are merely overly obsessed whackos with little to say of a life, too much money (or debt) and an overwhelming desire to have a copy of every appearance of every story and or book. Wait, I like "completist" better. Yes. Completist will do fine.

And, yes, "The Last Rakosh" was incorporated into All The Rage. Although, I got a copy of "The Last Rakosh" before I knew Jack was coming back.


How exactly is it incorporated into "All the Rage"? Is it just because he deals with the last rakosh, or do you all have a different edition of All the Rage than mine?

[APhew]

How exactly is it incorporated into "All the Rage"? Is it just because he deals with the last rakosh, or do you all have a different edition of All the Rage than mine?

The actual text of the short story "The Last Rakosh" was melded into the story of "All the Rage". I'm sure there were little snips and edits here and there to make it blend in with the main story.

The same was done with the short story "Home Repairs" being incorporated into "Conspiracies".

[Carcosa]

I believe that Shocklines.com can supply those who wish to belately sign on to the Borderlands limiteds matching numbers if you act quickly. If you pre-order all of them at once, there is only a one-time shipping charge, the books have a modest discount off the published price, they don't "pre-charge" you and you get bang up service. I buy ALL my small press stuff from them at this point. And no, I don't own the company :)

[Tim Hatch]

I believe that Shocklines.com can supply those who wish to belately sign on to the Borderlands limiteds matching numbers if you act quickly. If you pre-order all of them at once, there is only a one-time shipping charge, the books have a modest discount off the published price, they don't "pre-charge" you and you get bang up service. I buy ALL my small press stuff from them at this point. And no, I don't own the company :)

I agree. Matt Schwartz knows customer service and the books he sells. I always get first rate service.

[Biggles]

I believe that Shocklines.com can supply those who wish to belately sign on to the Borderlands limiteds matching numbers if you act quickly. If you pre-order all of them at once, there is only a one-time shipping charge, the books have a modest discount off the published price, they don't "pre-charge" you and you get bang up service. I buy ALL my small press stuff from them at this point. And no, I don't own the company :)

I did this just recently and was assured of matching numbers, but you should hurry up and reserve now.